Friday, February 08, 2008

Another Fun Question

Oh faithful Bloggers O' Wisdom! My many thanks for not failing me in my last attempt to attain balance admidst a swirl of challenging and too often pertinent questions. Like Moses petitioning God for patience and yet another response, so I come to you. Pleading on behalf of the portion of the generation that often glances my way for wisdom on many and varied issues, I now invite you to join me in the latest quest for popular opinion (Truth is too controversial). The question at hand is this:

If I don't speak in tongues am I baptized in the Holy Spirit?

10 comments:

Luke & Kristin said...

yes. yes. a million times yes. did you not go through MTI? When you got saved did Jesus visibly come down and sit on your shoulder to show you that it had "worked" no, you believe in faith that what God promised, He has done. When you ask for the Holy Spirit to come upon you and allow you to minister in power you believe in faith that God has done what He promised to do. Are we just removing faith from all aspects of Christianity now. For the 8-millionth time.. God doesn't fit in a box.. he doesn't fit into what you can or can't prove (baptism of the holy spirit or otherwise). When you make that the standard (which the Bible DOESNT tell you to do) it just gives fuel to your fire to be able to judge someone elses experiences and life. You ask in faith-You receive in faith, it is that simple. It says its that simple, and I tend to believe what the word of God says. There is zero place for anyone elses verdict on a persons baptism of the Holy Spirit. Since when do WE get to judge anyone elses relationship with Jesus... last time I checked, there is some pretty stern warnings regarding this.

Caleb and Ashley Brown said...

Fun response! Obviously passionate and spirited. Remember, we are not trying to judge anyone, simply opening a topic for discussion. I really enjoy your responses, they have been fun and insightful! I love your passion!

Luke & Kristin said...

and I'm a little fired up about this because we have the neatest guy in our MTI practicum group that has asked and asked for the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and he's incredibly prophetic, and Jesus is doing crazy things in his life and THROUGH his life.. but he doubts where or not it "worked" because of mindsets like this. He asked for it, he received it, the Holy Spirit is equipping him in mighty ways to add to the Kingdom.. but he hasn't gotten his prayer language yet.. so he doubts, even after everything God has done. and that frustrates the crap out of me.

John, Christina, and Hannah said...

Yes. But... At first I wondered if I really was because I couldn't speak in tongues and I've seen a handful of youth struggle with the same situation. It's not necessarily that you don't believe you are baptized in the Holy Spirit... You're just wondering why there is no evidence by speaking in tongues. That's where faith comes in but is generally a difficult time to have it since most baptized in the Holy Spirit are fairly new in their walk with God. I still don't know why some pour it out in an instant and others take a while (practicing in the shower and other secret places hoping your not faking it!) But it's hard to stand convinced as (generally) a young Christian when you are baptized in the Holy Spirit and stand strong in the faith that it has happened even if you can't do what everyone else is doing... (Now I know everyone is not speaking in tongues, but you know what I mean! So... my answer is yes you are, but I understand why why some aren't sure??

Luke & Kristin said...

I understand what you're saying when you say "we're not trying to judge anyone" and I'm responding with the fact that when you decide whether or not someone's baptism in the Holy Spirit is legit or not.. that is judgement.. un-founded, unbiblical, sinful judgement.

Lorelei said...

I'm probably gonna' bow out of this one, mostly because of the 'Truth is too controversial' comment. What's the point in obtaining popular opinion if you already know the truth on this? You should just go with the Truth:)

Cassie said...

YES!
I love this topic!!!! I'm super passionate about it because of what took place in my life in regards to speaking in Tongues. I was baptized in the Holy Spirit when i was around 10... i started have prophetic dreams(came true more often than not), prayed over the sick(saw incredible healings) and had a boldness about the Gospel and Truth. For 9 years i operated in the Gifts of the Spirit without EVER speaking in tongues! When i went off to YWAM this was a topic of much debate. A student on my team saw the Holy Spirit at work in my life and the fruit... so assumed i spoke in Tongues. When he found out i didn't he was so upset that his thoughts and beliefs were being proven wrong; to the extent that when we had a time of pray for the Baptism of the Holy SPirit he told the Leadership that i needed to receive it! It wasn't until a year later that i received tongues...

and might i add that i was not prayed over to receive it? This also has baffled some people in my life...I received it when i wasn't really expecting it at all... i just cried out to God and said, "i don't know what to do or pray right now"...*BAM* prayer language!

Luke & Kristin said...

Lorelei I think he was saying that the WORD "Truth" is too controversial.. so he's calling it "popular opinion"

Lorelei said...

Hm, I'll stand by my previous little guy (comment) because the truth really is too controversial for some. I heard that preached last night out of John 8:44-45. Rocked my world.

Brent and Virginia Earwicker said...

Maybe you are, maybe you're not. Hypothetically it seems that it may be possible to be filled with the Spirit of God prior to speaking in other tongues. The Bible seems to indicate that generally when someone is filled with the Holy Spirit, they did have a manifestation of such, usually including immediate tongues and/or prophecy. I think a better question is this: "If I speak in tongues, does that mean I'm baptized in the Holy Spirit?"